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  • Interview with CEO of Instructure on changes to executive team

    Interview with CEO of Instructure on changes to executive team

    Instructure is now a decade old as a company and faces a crucial test this year with recent changes to their executive management team and the need to scale both Canvas (academic LMS) and Bridge (corporate learning LMS). The long-time head of sales, Marc Maloy, and head of marketing, Misty Frost, left Instructure in the fall. The company eventually hired a new head of marketing, Bjorn Eriksson from the world of corporate HR, in January. After a months-long search, Instructure did not directly replace Marc with a new head of sales, but instead they hired a new president, Dan Goldsmith, who also has sales leaders reporting directly to him. With this move, Mitch Macfarlane, the long-time chief operating officer and former head of client services, will be leaving the company this summer. ((Disclosure: Instructure and D2L are subscribers to our LMS market analysis service and were sponsors at our recent Empirical Educator Project summit.))

    We’ve written about previous executive changes for Instructure – when their two founders left the company and when their CTO departed after just one year – but in each case the company managed the transitions and came out stronger in the end. As we have shared in our LMS Market Analysis service and on e-Literate, the Canvas track record is remarkable in terms of not losing customers and gaining new customers from most other LMS providers.

    But the executive changes over the past year come at a time when Instructure faces new challenges in product development and implementation support. At InstructureCon 2016, the company announced their next-generation quizzing platform, Quizzes.Next, stating that it would be “made available to you over the course of the next several months”. Last summer at InstructureCon 2017, Quizzes.Next entered a limited beta program, but the new set of tools is still not fully in production. To our knowledge, this might be the biggest product schedule miss in the company’s history, and it will be quite interesting to see what happens with this summer’s InstructureCon.

    In addition, we have had several people contact us privately, even before the most recent management change, telling us about a new level of frustration in implementation projects and product upgrades. None of the tales were extreme, but they were unusual for Canvas clients and in general spoke to distractions from staff and lack of clear answers and updates.

    The press release announcing the hiring of Dan Goldsmith included this description:

    With more than 20 years of experience in software and services, Goldsmith’s career is marked by directing high-performing global teams and achieving outstanding penetration and growth in challenging markets. Goldsmith spent the last eight years as a senior executive at Veeva Systems, a cloud-based software company, where he started and ran Veeva’s international business, led the company’s strategy in new markets and products, and most recently was responsible for Veeva’s global engagement and growth in strategic accounts.

    “It is an exciting time for Instructure. We are well positioned for success as we focus on the continued growth of Canvas, expansion of Bridge, and international execution,” said Josh Coates, CEO of Instructure. “Dan’s energy, creativity and proven track record in driving go-to-market strategies and rapidly scaling businesses make him a tremendous addition to Instructure at the perfect time to lead us through our next phase of growth.”

    Goldsmith was one of the first 50 employees at Veeva. He helped lead the company through a successful IPO and a growth path to a $10 billion market cap. Prior to Veeva, he worked in various executive positions at top companies, including Accenture, PwC and IBM. During his years in management consulting, Goldsmith led initiatives in global markets and developed new offerings. Goldsmith will have an immediate impact on Instructure’s strategy. His initial focus will be on market growth, with the sales leaders reporting directly to him.

    This was the setup for an interview that we had with Josh Coates, the CEO of Instructure, last week. Given our focus at e-Literate on education markets, we in particular wanted to ask about how the company is balancing the needs of Canvas and Bridge.

    Coates came prepared for the interview, and up front he made the point that the “vast majority of company resources” are allocated to the academic markets and that this is their foundational business. After we pointed out that the majority of discussions on quarterly earnings calls focus on Bridge, Coates noted that Wall Street is overly focused on corporate learning markets and unfortunately takes Canvas’ academic market performance for granted. He does not do so, but some of the investor community seems to.

    The primary selling points bringing Goldsmith to Instructure are that he helped Veeva grow into a $10 billion company, having joined as one of first ~40 employees, and that he specifically helped them grow international markets. According to Coates, Goldsmith spent his first three years opening up the Europe, Middle East, and Africa (EMEA) markets, and that yes, his international experience is a big reason for Instructure recruiting him.

    We have noted at e-Literate that Canvas really began international expansion just 3-4 years ago. According to our current data, Canvas leads in higher ed adoptions in Europe and Australia / New Zealand, but interestingly, D2L is beating Canvas in Latin America higher ed adoptions despite Instructure having a bigger investment in its regional office in São Paulo. At some point Canvas’ market share growth rate in North America will have to flatten out and international markets will naturally increase in importance for company finances. While market wins in Europe and Australia / New Zealand are impressive, Instructure will need more aggressive growth in other markets, and clearly Goldsmith is being tapped as a catalyst to increase sales overseas.

    We pointed out that Goldsmith had no education background and appears to be more closely aligned to corporate learning markets than higher ed or K-12 markets. Coates responded that Goldsmith has done quite well for himself at Veeva but is also passionate about education, as evidenced by his experience as the chair of the Montgomery School board of trustees. Coates acknowledged that this is not deep academic sector experience and that the company will need to give Goldsmith a big education on higher ed and K-12 markets. If we had a dollar for every time we heard of a rich dude who is passionate about education, well, we’d be rich dudes who are passionate about education. It is good to hear, however, the acknowledgement that the new executive brings rich software company scaling and international market growth experience but not domain knowledge of the academic markets for Canvas.

    We asked for an update on Quizzes.Next – when it will be generally available (GA) and whether the schedule challenges are related to the executive changes. Josh Coates assured me that no executives are working on the code, but Jared Stein, VP of higher ed product strategy, answered more directly.

    Quizzes.Next’s GA release is scheduled for Summer 2018. This is later than planned because we underestimated the complexity of building assessments entirely as a micro-service at the level of quality we set for ourselves and our users.

    The executive management team over the years has played a big role in establishing the company culture that is a large part of Instructure’s success. Now that the three M’s (Marc, Misty and Mitch) are out, the question is not whether the culture will change, but how. Coates’ acknowledges this reality and trusts that Instructure’s internal rudder is strong enough to keep the company on course.

    There are two company risks that stand out in trying to balance Canvas and Bridge. First is that complacency sets in not just with some in the investment community but with Instructure itself, and they begin to take their strong position in the academic market for granted. Second, and related, is that resources and talent end up flowing disproportionately to the corporate learning market given its increasing importance. These are risks to watch and not observations of actions, however, and Coates was emphatic that the academic market will always be the foundation of Instructure’s business. The corporate learning market is significantly larger than the academic market, however, and Coates estimated that in ten years or so, corporate will likely drive a larger portion of Instructure’s revenue.

    It should be noted that growth in corporate does not have to come at the expense of the academic market. It actually has the potential to strengthen product offerings in higher ed and K-12 as Instructure gains deeper insights into teaching and learning more broadly. There is also the potential for convergence, or at least cross-pollination, in these markets as the profile and needs of learners evolve.

    We’ll keep a close eye on academic LMS market trends in the coming months for signs of new developments. For the near term, at least, Instructure’s success is predicated on the continued success of Canvas in higher education and K-12 despite the quarterly investor calls skewing toward the corporate learning markets and new management hires with experience outside of the education sector.

  • Interview with Josh Coates, CEO of Instructure, on today’s IPO

    Instructure, maker of the Canvas (higher ed and K-12 markets) LMS and Bridge (corporate learning market) LMS, held their Initial Public Offering today. Prior to the IPO, Wall Street analysts focused on the company’s growth, its large losses, and the challenges of the education market. The company was priced on the lower end of its range ($16.00), and closed up 12.5% at $18.00.

    This IPO and its lead up have been highly watched, particularly given the rapid growth in ed tech investments and questions on whether there are real businesses to emerge based on the investments. I had the opportunity to interview CEO Josh Coates today. What follows is an edited version of the interview, focusing mostly on how Instructure’s IPO will impact education markets and existing customers. I tried to capture as much of the Q&A verbatim as was feasible, but treat the answers below as a paraphrase.

    Q. What are your impressions on how the IPO has gone so far?

    A. The market in general has been a blood bath [ed. Dow down 585, or 3.3%, for the week], but we’re doing well so far. Given market conditions right now, we’re pleased as punch. We priced in range [ed. $16 – $18], and the market responding well. We’re really focused as a company 6-12 months down the road, but it is nice to get this IPO feedback. (more…)

  • Instructure Is Truly Anomalous

    Phil started his last post with the following:

    I’m not sure which is more surprising – Instructure’s continued growth with no major hiccups or their competitors’ inability after a half-decade to understand and accept what is at its core a very simple strategy.

    Personally, I vote for Door #1. As surprising as the competition’s seeming sense of denial is, Instructure’s performance is truly shocking. After five years, I continue to be surprised by it. It’s not just how well they are executing. It’s that they seem to defy the laws of physics in the LMS market. We had no reason to believe that any LMS company could rack up the numbers they are showing—in several different areas—no matter how well they execute.

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  • Instructure: Accelerating growth in 3 parallel markets

    I’m not sure which is more surprising – Instructure’s continued growth with no major hiccups or their competitors’ inability after a half-decade to understand and accept what is at its core a very simple strategy. Despite Canvas LMS winning far more new higher ed and K-12 customers than any other vendor, I still hear competitors claim that schools select Canvas due to rigged RFPs or being the shiny new tool despite having no depth or substance. When listening to the market, however, (institutions – including faculty, students, IT staff, academic technology staff, and admin), I hear the opposite. Canvas is winning LMS selections despite, not because of, RFP processes, and there are material and substantive reasons for this success.

    The only competitor I see that seems to understand the depth of the challenge they face is Blackboard. Other LMS solutions are adding “cloud” options or making incremental improvements to usability, but only Blackboard is going for wholesale changes to both its User Experience (UX) and cloud hosting architecture. Unfortunately, I question whether Blackboard will be able to execute this strategy, but that is a story for another post.

    Like last year’s post about InstructureCon, I believe that the company growth chart ((The chart shows the number of clients, which is essentially the number of contracts signed with institutions, school districts, or statewide systems adopting either Canvas or Bridge LMS products.)) gives a lot more information than just “gosh, we’re doing well”. (more…)

  • InstructureCon: Canvas LMS has different competition now

    For the first few years of the Canvas LMS, Instructure’s core message was ‘Canvas is better than Blackboard’. This positioning was thinly veiled in the company’s 2011 spoof of the Apple / 1984 commercial and even hitting the level of gloating in a company blog commenting on Blackboard’s strategy reversal in 2012. Instructure made their name by being the anti-Blackboard.

    At InstructureCon 2014, there was hardly a mention of Blackboard or any of the other LMS providers. In fact, most of the general sessions avoided any direct or indirect comparison of LMS products. This year there were three observations that surprised me:

    • Snow in June;
    • Canvas growth in K-12 markets; and
    • Lack of mention of LMS competitors or product one-upmanship.

    Snow in June

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  • Everybody Wants to MOOC the World

    You may have seen this week’s announcement from Instructure of their new Canvas Network to support MOOCs and other open courses. Blackboard has already been dipping its toe in this water, having had Curtiss Bonk run a MOOC on CourseSites. I also find it significant that Blackboard (somewhat awkwardly) made an attempt to remind the market of this fact on the same day as Instructure’s announcement. I predict that “MOOC” will reach the same level of hype at this year’s EDUCAUSE conference that “open” did last year.

    But hype aside, it’s worth asking what it means for the traditional LMS players to be marketing themselves as platforms for MOOCs and other open courses.

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  • The Blackboard Announcements, Part 2: Can Open Source Be Bought?

    I have gotten a lot of email from folks who moved to Moodle (often from Blackboard CE) because they wanted to get away from Blackboard and they thought that open source was “safe.” In my first post on the announcements, I noted there are reasons to believe that Moodlerooms customers may do just fine under the new corporate ownership. But still, what does the announcement mean? Did Blackboard buy Moodle? What about open source can be for sale? What protection does it afford from corporate acquisition, and what are the limits of those protections?

    I’ll try to outline some of the ins and outs in this post.

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